Sarah has a post up today, one on a subject that always rings with me.
Small pull qoute to get your interest..
Now, I’ma gonna break that up into two parts, driving with the last part FIRST “So who are we saving it for?”
Damned good question. We know that our progeny are going to inherit what we leave, in pretty much the exact same state as we had it, since the time-line is too short to do SERIOUS change,,,
We are also finding that the little bit of this-that, that certain groups hollar over, are actually ‘nothin’burgers’ in the grand scheme of things. We do far more damage to OTHER lifeforms than we can do this rock we inhabit (currently) We nearly wiped out certain breeds of whale in the pursuit of lamp oil as example. We have wiped out some forms of birds, such as the passenger pigeon, back in the beginning of the last century.
And we have been finding that species extinction is a whole lot more common than those that WE as a species have caused. Its a natural thing, even if we sometimes ‘put our thumb on the scale’.
So who are we saving the Earth for? It gets a little grey in the grand scheme of things, or in certain timelines; like Epochs,,,,
I recall one discussion over coffee in the wee hours after the clubs had closed,,, (way back in my past life as SOundDood,,,) We were discussing nuclear weapons and how damaging they really are. One of the peeps in the discussion was a undergrad Engineer, and was usually the silent one, but on this, He jumped alive and debunked all sorts of garbage thinks.
One was some idea that we could ‘split the earth in two’ with our weapons: the person even went so far as to describe what they thought would do it. Dropping the largest nastiest weapon into the Marianas Trench and detonating when it hit bottom, wherever that is. Engineery type slammed that one fast. Explained that the pressures of water at those depths would TAMP the explosion and about the most you would get would be a big “Burp” of radioactive steam and gas at the surface HOURS LATER,,, And probably a lot of dead fish from the limited concussion spike. At worst, it would start some seismic shit and might be ‘felt’ around the world, but more likely, not even that.
Then there was the “waste the entire surface of livable earth”,,, that one got a nod, but quickly turned into, ‘nope,,, maybe for a few years, but Earth bounces back fast,,,,” (note: the next night, he brought photocopies of Hiroshima /Nagasaki b4 and after pics to prove his points) “we, as humans might get wiped out, but in 10 years, not a trace of the war other than rubble.” All one need do is look to Chernobyl and how the wildlife and habitat are back to normal; that happened in only a few short years. No Hyper-mutant Bugbears or xenomorphic freaks running in the woods there: the wolves look like wolves and the squirells are still tree clowns of normal size.
Seriously, even the damage we cause in strip mining (and there are more than a few MTR projects left over from the 50-60’s in this area to use as example) is quickly absorbed ONCE WE LEAVE THE AREA TO ITS OWN DEVICES. Yah, it takes some time, but even in the short span we inhabit this rock as individuals, one can see the change. Plant a tree when you are ten, and by the time you retire, its ready to be harvested for lumber. Most living things do not live at the same pace. A dog lives for 12-18 years. A horse might go 30. Mules may live 50. People are averaging around 80 these days
And the earth is 8 BILLION* years old,,,,
8,000,000,000/80 8.0*10(exp9)/8*10(exp1) ,,,, Our lives are one one hundred millionth a percent of time compared to the earth,,,, your eye blinks are roughly that percentage of your life,,,, We are but FLEAS on the surface of this planet. Smaller than that even, when you compare a flea to the size of your dog, vs our size in comparison to the whole of earth,,, Maybe we make this planet itch in our doings, but I would say, in the grand scheme of things, we aren’t doing THAT MUCH, at least not to the rock we live on. As I mentioned, we do more damage to each other and other species than we could ever hope to inflict upon this rock. (and the other species are just as much ‘FLEAS’ as we are, just not as obnoxious about it,,,,)
And if modern Geographical evidence is to be believed, this rock has gone through MANY changes and only a few of them have been hospitable to life as we know it. Many periods in our rocks time period, where the surface was nastier and meaner than the surface of Mercury or Venus. We just happen to be lucky enough to be in a ‘good spot’ in our rocks time.
(*an arguable point for certain, and NO, I am not going to go into that rabbit hole that some christian sects go, saying the earth is only 12,500 years old,,, too many points I have valid points against, and most of the ones that do believe that crap are leftoid indoctrinated shits that don’t WANT to hear any evidence otherwise,,,,” believe what I say or you are Heretic!!!!” )((Update: getting numbers backwards in me mind. Universe is supposedly 8 billion years old, Earth is a mere 4.3billion Y.O. my numbers are off, but my point remains ‘close enough’ from ‘simple hooman perspective’,,,,))
Ah,,, and now its time to pick apart the first part of Sarahs quoted statement. I won’t say she is Wrong,,,, Its a statement based on empirical evidence,,, BUT,,,, Its unprovable, in either argument: “You can’t prove a negative” You can only make suppositions (in both orders)
I propose that the Earth, and every other stellar body (that isn’t frozen solid rock, aka our moon and that may be wrong as well.) is alive in some fashion. Sentient? thats a very tightly defined term using only empirical evidence. When a ‘being’ has a lifespan in BILLIONS of years, who is to say it isn’t sentient? It may ‘think’ or ‘live’ on a different frequency level, one we can’t really detect with our current state of tech, but that does NOT mean it isn’t alive. What if the beings ‘eyeblink’ takes 250,000,000 years to achieve? What if ‘being sentient’ the earth isn’t even aware of us, except for the occasional ‘itch’ we give her as we dig into her skin for our resources?
And I think we are going to find through Quantum mechanics that even the peices of gravel in your driveway have a certain amount of life to them,,, it just moves MUCH much slower than us FLEAS,,,
That was the only part of Sarahs article I took exception too. I understand the statement; I just had to be the contrarian and point out my opinion of the matter.
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