Thoughts on Discipline

My last post got my brainium running in circles.   And a post of Fakebuk from a friend (that I agree with usually, but this instance, NOPE)  had me shaking my head.

DISCIPLINE, a shadow term for Corporal punishment with other meanings as well. In this instance, I am using the corporal punishment meaning.

We stopped disciplining school children.

Look at what the young’ns are doing these days.   Just look at the childish tantrums being thrown (and they record them for fucks sake!) over a losing political charade.  These are ‘fully grown adults’, holding down jobs (maybe) driving cars (they like filming their tantrums in their cars)

But they are NOT Adults.

IT wasn’t all that long ago, we still had physical punishment in schools.    Simple things like Swats, where you got your ass  paddled for being a screw-up.

‘But Dio, WE are a civilized society!!!  We don’t need that sort of altercation to correct bad behaviour!”

BULLSHIT!!!    The real world doesn’t work like that, never has, never will.     IF  you were to try and live outside of a society, violence is the NORM.    IF you don’t abide by the rules, you are going to DIE.   Don’t mess with Mama-bear, and NEVER get between her and her cubs, sort of rules.

WE incarcerate our Criminals. and that has become the agreed upon ‘practice’, but look at return to jail rates.   Recidivism is practically expected these days.   In Schools, they used to do detentions or expel offenders, (and this may still be the case in some places) but the physical punishments are now VERBOTEN.

and the result is, IMO, quite expected.   NO DISCIPLINE, Toddlers throwing tantrums, no respect of any sort to others.   me me me me me me,,,,

I’m not talkiing abuse here, though there are instances where an outsider might interpret things as such (that incorigible kid that just won’t quit for example)   But like the wilds, if ‘justice’ isn’t swift and exact, the lesson won’t be learned.  More “spare the rod, spoil the child” proverbs,,,

I like Heinleins example of teaching the puppy ( in Startship Troopers)   If you don’t catch the puppy making the mess and correct him immediately, he won’t learn.  If you randomly beat on the dog for no reason, or lock him up for long periods of time (and you can’t explain why to a dog,,,), eventually that dog is going to turn and bite.

Look at our inner cities,,,

Look at the cry-babies videoing their tantrums.

Look at the products of Modern Education, showing up as freshmen in college and can’t read and comprehend  basic instructions.

We have children that can type 150wpm, but can’t scribble out their names with a pencil.   (and I don’t even want to go into the verbiage and punctuation chaos they use.)

And to point this out as unacceptable is becoming criminal,,,   Thats how society fails,,, when the standards of it are no longer ENFORCED (corporal punishment is enforcement) the standards will fall to the losest accepted level, and when that level is not set in stone,,,,

Entropy

it happens in society just as well.

Areas where I see “misinterpretation”: Bullying, now applies to ‘shaming’ as well as the narcisistic bully of old.  You can’t are not permitted to use shaming to correct bad behaviour.   Simple but effective corporal punishments; Rulers across the backs of hands, Swats across the backside, etc, are not permitted any longer.   The sudden and yes, PAINFUL, but not phyisically damaging correction focuses the recipient on ‘I don’t want that to happen again’ and steers them to making sure they don’t ‘mess up’.    We are hardwired to avoid pain, and if we aren’t using that ‘tool’ to teach (at least in some small way) we are doing our students, our prodigee, OUR FUTURE SOCIETY MEMBERS, a serious disservice, and ultimately, ourselves as well.   

Lord knows, I wouldn’t want some of these ‘children’ being my Nurse or Physician when I am old and decrepit and need assitance.

sigh

Maybe I am that old soul, trapped in a younger body in a time where things aren’t the same.   BUT, I see how things were, how they could be, and I don’t see them improving without great pain before we witness a correction.   These children are going to be a burden on society and they are raising children even worse (if you want to call it raising them.)   We will see a Feral Generation that has no concept of right or wrong, if things keep going.   I often joke that Gen-X are the feral ones, and in some ways, we were, but we figured out that ‘right and wrong’ thing and did pretty good with it.   IMO, Where things shifted were in the public schools and a misinterpretation of “cruel and unusual punishment”     Maybe there should be a certain amount of cruelty built into the system,,,,,

To those that want to argue this, remember one thing ” LIFE AIN’T FAIR” and anyone telling you otherwise is trying to sell you something or take something away from you.   REAL LIFE is a Mutha and will beat you senseless if you get out of line.   And we do the kids and ourselves a disservice if we teach them otherwise.  AND, this is a broadbrush post,,,, I know there are people of the same age as those children, who aren’t totally screwed up brainwashed leftoid communists.    The ones we are exposed to are the outliers: also known as “useful idiots”.

sigh,,,,

Live

learn

laugh

LOAD      The future isn’t written YET, and this trip could go anywhich way,,,,